Everett Bradley

Everett Bradley is the charismatic creator of the funky cult holiday extravaganza, “HOLIDELIC” - now in its 20th year. He’s a singer, songwriter, and percussionist who’s played with and sang backup for Bruce Springsteen, Bon Jovi, Carly Simon, and many others. On this episode, we welcome Papadelic himself - Everett Bradley. https://everettbradley.com/

Tickets to Holidelic 2024 shows can be purchased here:
The Vogel: Red Bank, NJ Friday Dec 20th
Sony Hall: New York City, NY Sunday Dec 22nd

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One of the most sought after singers, writers, and performers in the entertainment world, Everett Bradley’s resume reads like a who’s who of show business.

Spanning from multiple genres of music to theater and television, this Grammy-nominated force of nature has lent his unique blend of extraordinary talent, exuberance, and heart to every tour, session, Broadway show and TV program he has been a part of.  And there have been many. 

His vocal, percussion and keyboard work have included playing and recording with Bruce Springsteen’s E Street Band, Hall & Oates, SEAL, Carly Simon, David Bowie, Snarky Puppy, Quincy Jones, Bobby McFerrin, and presently in the Bon Jovi band.

Theatrically, he starred in and co-wrote the Broadway musical SWING (Theatre World Award), was a featured performer in the broadway’s AFTER MIDNIGHT, was NY director of the off broadway show STOMP, and re-imagined the orchestrations for a regional production of 42nd Street at Chicago’s Drury Lane and Minneapolis Ordway Theatre which received rave reviews. 

Everett has penned songs for various listening formats. His debut album “AS EVER IT IS” received favorable mentions in Billboard magazine, his club hit “I Luv U Baby” hit #2 on the UK pop charts. He’s written for many commercials and TV shows, and most famously the theme “Feel Real Good” for the Meredith Vieira show in which he was also the musical director/ bandleader.

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Produced and Edited by Arts and Craft.
Theme Music: Sound Gallery by Dmitry Taras.

Transcript

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hi Everett

hi I feel we in like all of us are having like a little bit of a homecoming but very different because you guys work together in Stomp and you and I what we did the panty party ages ago and I haven't seen you in a while this is sort of like a mixing of our whole lives together it's more like slic of Our Lives you know like a particular time period uh I went to a I went to a barbecue this summer and somebody you know everybody brought something it was in the suburbs it was also in New Jersey I say that and somebody brought a what they called a bread salad okay that sounds a little disgusting I was just obsessed with the whole concept I can't even eat bread but I was obsessed with the concept of it so this is this is like a it's still I don't know they just they cut bread up and they put it in oil and herbs and they bake it and they call it a [ __ ] salad okay but to be fair I've also seen in New Jersey I've seen candy salad which is exactly what it sounds like just a big bowl full of different types of candies and then there like there are some that like are no chocolate versions and look that sounds like a I'm on a diet so I'm going to eat salad and I'm really eating candy yeah so anyway this is like slices of Our Lives yeah all this is a this is a bread salad listener right this is exactly thought you what you thought you were getting into isn't it Everett no well I'm excited because I can just listen and be entertained so true ever you have always this about you guys you're a great audience ever you always have been I love it just keep going the only thing missing is a cocktail for me right now oh I was going to say we actually know each other not only from stomp but from hanging out at many alcohol based events yes yes it was the it was the 90s it was the it was early let's not date ourselves too much here okay well I'm happy to date myself I don't like anybody else who I'm dating so I'm happy to date myself so we met on stomp you taught me portions of the show you had been in it for about a year and change I think you were the like part of the first American cast were you also an understudy for the British cast did you come in with Dan no so Dan got it I love the way you said that no Dan got he knows what I'm talking Dan is married Kathy and Jimmy now oh that's Dan because I did not get that call back it was between me and Dan and Dan got it oh and that was like my third call back and then I was like fine I am done with this [ __ ] show and wait I'm gonna tell you the story because I know it and and then Dan as a result met Kathy and that's how they got married yeah so me not getting it allowed him to go on tour and be on the west coast and meet cathine and Jimmy and now they have a a famous daughter amazing they're not too shabby themselves they are not uh so Everett to answer your question I was the very small special group of uh me Shia Lyn and waren so there was just three of us so you guys kind of came in at different parts like different times like okay today we have Kim Marie teaching us this and today we have Everett teaching us this and that's kind of what it was and we also we kind of got to know each other on that ferry that goes to Rand Randall's Island Randall's Island because stomp was doing a big gig like in a big book in soccer stadium or something and it was a little bit of a trip on a it was a lot of traveling with the stuff and yeah and that's that's I always remember like oh that's when I got to know really know Everett just in that little boat ride yeah yeah not in rehearsal right yeah so ever I'm so excited to have you on this you represent everything about music that I love about musicianship that I love about performance that I love you are a phenomenal performer you're a phenomenal musician you are you're also very charismatic on stage you and you're just a really wonderful warm guy one of the things I remember cuz I think when we first met is when I was co-hosting the panty party and you used to come and you and perform at the panty party and you were just such a great sport always dressed the crazy you know it was a show where the guys had to dress and drag and we had some resistance never with Everett right always right and just but a blast and just did someone say costume yeah right speaking of costume so I'm going to jump right into holidelic because I know you're you just started selling tickets for holidelic which is coming up this is like the 25th anniversary or something I think it started in 2005 I switched over to 20 years about 20 I feel like it was before it was before I moved to Paris I'm I started doing a show called toy in 2002 yes and I had this idea to like like P Funk ofy all the songs to make it into that sort of thing and that happened in Christmas 2005 so uh that was the change over I it was at The Cutting Room the old Cutting Room in the flat iron right yes I remember specifically because I started the show with dress in normal clothes and I had a big Christmas package on stage and I opened the package did and hey now let's keep it G-rated but I um I got out a fur coat I pulled out a wig I pulled out glasses and I pulled on boots and then that was it I never went back Daddy Pap adelic right there on stage in front of everyone were you papad delic right there did or was that did it take a while to develop the origin store right this the origin story and then you know it's like cat one year then he had big white hair the next year the white hair lit up you know the year after that fireworks came out of it people come out of it it's just it's just evolving character it's like Catwoman she gets pushed off a ledge and like oh I landed on my feet Yes yes do you just love the holidays I mean it's hard to do the show it's hard to continue doing the show and New York City and the holid are how do you get through this freaking that is a very good question well I mean growing up I loved Christmas I loved everything about it when I was a little kid I used to walk around the neighborhood and look at all the lit up houses and trees and and I used to just get all warm and fuzzy where was that into it that was in Muny Indiana oh wow and then so I've always wanted to actually no I take that back myoto we were really upset over over 911 and we were looking for ways to heal ourselves and so Mike said let's write some Christmas songs so we started writing songs and that's what ended up being the album toy oh my gosh but you know um holidelic became very deeply personal because both of my parents died at Christmas time yeah my mother in 2003 and then my dad in 2005 oh wow so um so now holidelic has become a way for me to get through the holidays right because of that right so I get to put on a costume and just woo get through it and then it's over yeah I mean it's still good I don't mean that in a dark way but you know it's therapeutic absolutely oh that's what we talked about in the previous podcast It's All Therapy yeah was there music in your house growing up or were you the music I was well actually my sister Lucinda she played the saxophone and my oldest sister played the clarinet that was the extent of it basically did you guys play together no we never did but uh I the saxone was still in the house and I used to pick it up and do things on it and

then that explains a lot you went there that's that's a whole other conversation oh my God but um no and then I I my I asked for a little organ like a little synth for Christmas and my mom got me one and then that's when I started figuring out how to play songs on the radio I just want to say this conversation is going to places I had no idea was going to go oh my gosh I predicted tangentially in ways that my mind gone now but you know I yeah you you just you were able to just recreate something you heard on on a piano as kid and it was oh I enjoyed doing this and then I asked for lessons and then my mom set me up with piano lessons but I had only had this little keyboard right and so the piano teacher was like she talked to my parents said he needs a piano and my dad was like no oh oh no I'll just get him

drums you're like I'll get you D it was like no music we want him to actually play sports or study engineering or good Lord was on that W it's like let's stay focused don't don't let him do it and my mom fought him and she got the piano anyway amazing this is going to be so great in the TV movie I already love this scene

so then I started figuring she was teaching me like what I had already sort of started figuring out and uh and then when I got into high school I was like playing football and singing in the show choire and then marching Pand and then it came up that I got a scholarship to go study Engineering in Boston ah but I talked to my mom and I said I don't want want to do it can you please help me get an audition at a music school so behind my dad's back she got me voice lessons what the and then I auditioned for Indiana University and got in and they gave me a scholarship and wow I had to present the whole thing to my dad oh my gosh and he was like wait a minute the school is giving you money for music suddenly suddenly his tune no pun intended changed that's when it clicked for him finally wow wow I love this scene in the movie is also really good I know thank God also cuz they probably probably would have ended up in divorce otherwise he would have been like what have you been doing oh they fought and that was it so then college is coming to newor you know you're finishing it up and you're like I guess my next thing is to move to New York City yeah I was in in high school and I went on a a theater trip to New York and that's when I saw it and I got the bug toally I saw it and I'm like this is my home I know it like I saw all those different kinds of people all stacked up on top of each other yeah making life happen yeah and uh and I saw shows and I was like oh my god do you remember what your what show you saw or one of the shows you saw the Fantastics oh wow oh wow off was like early on then like Jer Jerry Orbach maybe was in it yeah yeah I something I can't even remember who was that but I do remember seeing the Elephant Man with Mark ham ham wow wow yes the drama that's a deep show for a high schooler Pete what was your first Broadway show uh my first Broadway show was I was in junior high school I think I was SE whatever the last part of Junior High School is called 9th grade and um there was a trip into New York City to see a show and the show was Frankenstein I like love all the universal monsters I I just grew up like with painting little creatures of the Black Lagoon and I love that so I was like Frankenstein yes and um this explains so much it totally does because the show was amazing and the show closed the next day it got such bad reviews oh wow so cut two we're lock down during pandemic I'm creating a show called planet of the grapes which is UN watched a Toy Theater and there has to be an avalanche and I have to show my director on Zoom you know in another state how I'm planning this and it's like this sort of taking this mesh and like tying these little foam rocks to it and rolling it up and letting it unfurl and she was like that's [ __ ] genius I said that's that is exactly how they made the castle fall down at the end of the first Broadway show I ever saw yes that's cool love it that's so cool that's awesome what was your first Broadway show show Nancy magell yes I think and I may be wrong but I think it was Annie which is really sad it's kind of sad right no maybe in the movie of yours it we'll find something else you know I don't know the original cast of Fiddler you know and you see B Midler and you're like I have to do that yeah that wasn't what made me want to do this although I was jealous as a kid I definitely want you know I was like oh I wish I could do that but I don't think that was the thing that made me go I have to do this you know ever do you ever get jealous of people did you ever or do you ever is that a thing I I can't imagine that's a thing I can't imagine you getting jealous I don't get jealous but I do get inspired Yeah by people like I'm like oh I like what they're doing I'm going to do that except I'm going to add X you know yeah who do you remember being like one of those figures that you were like I this is this is a little bit of a voice for me when I saw sophisticated ladies on Broadway and it was not Gregory Hines but his brother who just passed right yes Maurice Maurice yes Maurice Hines and the way he was singing and dancing and just killing it I was like yes I want that I want to be that that's cool do you dance like that like are you a really good dancer yeah uh he was in the Broadway show swing which came came around the time that swing was really big yeah and they they got a show up they made a show they made as we need you to write a damn song right now wow swing that girl around I I did not do any research over it by the way I'm coming out of a shower a long day compan my God you're doing good yeah this is pretty good this is pretty good I want to I want to know then how you got from all of the theater and all the stuff to percussion at what point did you decide percussion I want to start lugging around all this heavy year yeah no that's a really good question so it's a long I'll try to make it short story when I was in Indiana at Indiana University I was playing in a funk band what were you playing I was singing and and I was like the male singer and uh and the guys in the band were like when you're not singing lead can you be doing something else and so I got a pair of conas and that's how it happens exactly this is crazy and you just got a pair of conas I got a pair conas and then and I already sort of played saxophone so I was able to play like I'm never gonna dance again totally and and then I was playing keys I had like a synth and so I would that was what I was doing in the band when I wasn't singing lead so when I got to New York all those things were like survival yeah you could play with many different kinds of people and and that's what in stump totally changed my life as a percussionist because it just I mean I was playing like sort of a limited sort of traditional way like conas and timbales and Tambour but when I got to stump I'm like Oh you mean I can make that sound on a trash can yeah and so when I went into Studios started playing on music stands or shuffling my feet on a rug sure or getting the little bottle and playing on it and it gave me an edge right you a s yes over all the percussionists and plus I sang so you started doing a lot of sessions and that helped you stay alive in the city and do what you want to do um so I was playing in this band and this artist from Jersey named John Eddie he was uh signed to CBS and he was slated to be the new Young Springsteen and he recorded his album at John Kellen me melan Camp studio in Indiana and while he was there he was scoping out bands and so he chose sea Pelton who was in that funk band with me oh you didn't say that that's interesting yes and he he saw me too and he took us with him back to Jersey what oh cool that be that's the beginning of your jersey band Adventures isn't it weirdly the seed was planted yes and so I was playing with John Eddie and we did the last Bengals Tour opening up for them and the last tour with the Kinks oh God so diverse and so that's what introduced me to Jersey and the whole sort of recording touring thing so I'm a little lost in the time though so you came to New York and then you started becoming a session guy in New York but when where does that fit in with John so um I was after I graduated I stayed in Indiana for a while and then when this thing happened with John I moved from there to New York with Sean Pelton and we liveed together in the E so you started touring and all that before you even moved moved to New York City right wow you also didn't know what you wanted to do I didn't really we we I lived in Jersey well that's still but you came to the east coast to be part of the New York scene right right I was just saying but it sounds like you know also like uh I don't maybe I'm just thinking of my no I'm thinking of my friends too like you graduate from college and then you're like okay I'm going to go to New York City and I'm going to work really hard to become a and sounds like you were just like you know what I'm just going to go and I'm just going to take me take go where the wind takes me totally that's so crazy I used to tie a tow around my neck climb up to the highest step jump off to see if I can fly I kept falling on my face but I always gave it one more try cuz who the hell was Newton anyway lost of gravity didn't about me because

I want

feeless I want we love to ask folks like what what was the moment like what was the what was the project or the gig or the whatever that you were like yeah this is the one after this you know I'm living the high life you know never have to hunt down a job never have to go through the village Joyce never have to you know what was the one because it seems like you had 40 of them there's a lot of them actually yeah but they're all really good ones Bruce Springsteen was one of them okay I just want to say he is the reason I became a songwriter he is my he is my inspiration because I think he is the best songwriter and every time I write a song I'm just like I want to be at that level as a Lyricist I just think he is a poet and knocks me out so I'm I'm so glad that you've gotten to play with him I'd love to know what that's like and yeah I I put it out there into the universe like it was I had I was on my fifth year with holl and notes and I also you know toured with uh Bobby mcfarren I did some work with Carly Simon too and I was like God you've had it so rough I wanna yeah I wna go I W to do this big like I just put it out there and I kept thinking about who it could be and it was someone like that and uh it's a little bit of a tale but it's worth it I get this phone call from a friend from Jersey and he wants to hire me to play a show in Asbury Park and so I said yes this is my ticket and he sent all the songs to me and they're all Bruce Springsteen songs wow so I called Bobby and I said uh what's up with this like what are we doing and because first he presented it as a um a tribute show yeah and I'm like this is a tribute show he goes okay busted and so I confronted him about it it and he said okay it's Bruce and he is doing a fundraiser for his son's college it was like Boston College and he his son I guess started some sort of um college fund there for kids who needed money for school nice and um and so he wented to help him raise money so I'm like great so I learn all the tunes we get there my setup was placed at the front of the stage which is odd for a percussionist it's I'm usually next to the drummer so it was up there and I was singing too and so I'm like Bobby what's going on here he's like I just thought it would be fun for him wow and why didn't he tell you why didn't he tell you that it was that you were going to be playing with Bruce oh because I guess they were trying to keep it a secret oh okay yeah because it's Bruce and they try to hide those things because everyone shows up to with Stone Pony you know so we go we do soundcheck Bruce hardly looks at me he's just sort of listening to me and it seemed to go fine we do the show he's all up in my grill like with his arm around me we're like singing the microphone and I'm like [ __ ] you don't know who you're messing with like it's showtime for me so I'm going in yeah so we're like doing dance steps and just like carrying on so then three months later I get a phone call from the management his management and says Bruce is putting a tour together and he really liked his experience with you and he's never had a percussionist before God that's so wonderful so he wants to know if you will come in and rehearse with the East Street Band I mean and I'm like yeah hello can you come this Wednesday it was a Monday and I said no and I said I'm leaving to fly to Japan with Holland oats oh wow on Wednesday say and then they said can you leave a day later oh my God and I said no said because once I make a commitment I just try to keep it cuz I know that put them in a crazy place yes so he was like the management was like are you sure it's Bruce and I'm like I know I I I I just can't do it so I got on the plane and I was bummed that that happened and I get an email while I'm in Japan from the management that says can you take a picture of your setup and call us when you return so I get back and then I get the management on the phone he's like it's not like Bruce uh was auditioning other percussionists he was so impressed with your level of commitment that he decided to wait for you yeah oh I love that you know what that doesn't surprise me about him that he that he would respect that right right and that you would be that kind of a person to do that as well so I kept asking can I can you send me music can you he was like nope I'm like what gear should I bring they're like don't worry we're have sending a car to get you I get I get out of the car and get to the stage and they have an exact replica holy my percussion set up wow oh that's so cool you must have been dying inside this is crazy and he sent me no music and I'm like I don't know any of the songs he was like I know oh I want to see what you do on the Fly freaking oh God that's so cool I mean that's what it's about right and that tot those shops that you can get up there and just jam with Bruce like that's great and it was so freeing because I didn't have any like baggage of I hope I remembered that part or any of that I was just making it up and you know and part of it in his defense was because people call audibles in the audience all the time yeah and sometimes you may not be as familiar with those old songs from old albums and you just got to pull it out so that's part of the whole E Street magic that's just I love that story I think that's so great and it's a perfect match and I think that's what is really why his shows are so exciting to watch I actually think I saw you guys when I was living in Paris I think you came over and played with him and I you got me backstage if I recall yes that's right and I just remember like I think his shows are so magical he was one of the that's one of the reasons I became a musician as I said I remember seeing him perform when I lived in Baltimore and it just was such a magical concert he G gives his all which you do it and it's it makes sense that you guys would be working together because it's such it is that captivating of her performance and that's so wonderful it was so yes that was definitely one of those um Pinch Me moments yeah but it also proba I mean it probably did lead to other many other didn't did that lead to V Joi speaking of new tooni that led to uh Meredith Vieira that wait Meredith viea oh the show right the show yeah yeah musical director right wow yeah I forgot about that yeah gosh so what's the thing that you're uh you know what has to happen now like what what's the thing like what would be the greatest thing you need a job I mean right yeah we always try to book guests when they're not working because we find they're at their most vulnerable actually that's when you're free yeah what is next for you besides the holidelic shows coming up right well I turned holidelic into a a musical I wrote a story for it oh yes because I uh I'm getting old and I can't wear these platform boots for too much longer I hear you I don't know how you have done that hear you that is CRA I wanted to keep going and I thought if I can just make this into an actual theatrical event then I can cast it right with other actors and you're giving the audience something new but something familiar at the same time right that's that's what we're used to with this show yes right like oh this year it's going to have this kind of twist or theme and oh this year it's going to have this costumey thing or this guest or this time it's like oh this one has a plot and it's also kind of become a classic at least in around New York it's sort of like Trans Siberian Orchestra where they do their big Christmas thing every year I feel like holidelic is one of those things that everybody's waiting for every year yeah and that's my dream actually to make it like a Trans Siberian that it can be in multiple cities and or tour like the country or yeah something like that yeah how are you trying to make that happen I have a booking agent now she's the one who pushed me to write the story and she signed off on it she loved it and uh and it's it's still the format is like a hewig type thing where the lead singer is actually telling the story yeah sort of thing and the band is the various characters at any given moment that sort of thing but um uh she is looking to book it in theaters we didn't have luck this season so that's why we're only doing two shows but um at Sony Hall yeah where's Sony Hall underneath the Paramount Great venue the it's like considered the best sound in any venue in New York City right right yeah they put a lot of Pride into that yeah but she had a difficult time booking it because it you know Christmas is a very specific thing and so you only get really a month window to make it happen so there's that and uh theaters are can be a little conservative about that time and they'd rather book you know traditional traditional like a Christmas story or or well let me ask you a question have you thought about making it into a film that is where I'm headed as well yeah yeah so I'm trying to make a treatment actually I would love it if it wasn't animated please make it a stop motion I just need everyone needs to have a little bendable posable stop motion inspired Everett Bradley on their I love that he went to merchandising I mean on it's so obvious you press the button in the back and the hair lights

up but you know there's no there's no Urban Christmas story that comes around every year like all the rest of them and I feel like there's still time for me to get in there and make it happen totally yeah

absolutely there's a famar chill in the air soon the bells will ring better prepar we get the tree the finest P the tradition remains right down L we trim our lives with the latest sensation as we hide behind the strings of decoration you can have the brightest star but the holiday is who you

are let's decorate the world tonight

T so I want to ask you a question just a little detour for a minute cuz I want to talk a little bit about what life is like on the road and I also want to ask you about like some of the craziest things that you've experienced on the road as a performer as a human like what what is that like being on the road I think listeners would want to know that wow it seems So Glamorous right but I know from you Daniel maneras like from a lot of people of what it's really like and I think it'd be great to hear it from someone who's experienced it and you've experienced it over the course of two decades yeah yeah right it was a lot of fun when we were on tour yeah South America but now I'd be like yeah oh my God those stomp tours oh my God Stu was a really rock and roll that's what I loved about that was rock and [ __ ] and roll yeah it was not a theater tour to me at all it prepared you for a life in rock and roll totally yes absolutely cuz say everyone's in the pub after the show or the club The Pub or the club The Pub or the club or they're running from away from Tamar Halper oh she's on um I don't know well what's it like what is your dayto day on a tour like are you on a mostly on tour buses or are you now flying everywhere like what is it like what is that day to day it depends on the artist you know I I toured with seal this uh during 2023 cuz I had time off from Bon Joi so I was able to do it and it was a tour bus for the most part and I hadn't done that in like 10 years or so wow it's like a whole vibe it's a whole vibe and I forgot all the rules like you know no pooping in the toilet wait what how do you not poop in a toilet when you're on a bus yeah wait till you pull over you wait till you pull over you have to go to the gas station or something because the poop doesn't just go out of the bus it travels with you and it starts seeping and stinking and stinking yeah so do you have to like go up to the bus drive and say I really have to poop or you have to just everyone plans their their meals their meals and their bathroom breaks did not think this is is okay I know I'm sorry you're you're keeping it real Everett this is so

this this is what we'll use for the teaser Nancy make a note of that we ever talking about poop and people be like I have to listen to this oh God the Poop part didn't come until 45 minutes in but it was worth it but it is fun to like travel on a tour bus you know because everyone's watching movies together usually on the screen or um and that's fun and we all get to sit around and drink and talk about the show in a cool way way and it's usually the front part of the bus is set up like a little mini living room so um that's fun sleeping can be difficult because you know you are in like little tiny bunks there's no you can depending on the tour bus you have to just stay laying down or maybe you can sit up in the bed depending you know if it's like it travels with eight or 16 wow and are you able if like let's say everybody goes to bed at a certain time if you can't sleep sleep if it's one of those nights is it cool to just get up and go out into the front and watch TV or do something like it's not you know you're not restricted or anything it's like your home yeah it's like your home everyone's in their jammies what do you do if someone's like a big snorer and you you're you like if you're someone who can't sleep if someone's snoring is that ever problem well I mean we're in like these little Cubbies and you pull a curtain and the bus is humming okay pretty yeah so you can't really hear I was remembering the uh the stomp buses the very very back is like the best spot to like make your bedroom but it kind of just became like the hangout like yeah it was like being in Genie's bottle you know what I mean like it's just very loungy yeah but if you're on the door with the star they get that space right I think this the star is not on the bus at all with you anyway I don't know star's like bye depends on who was seal on the bus with you no oh okay he had his he had his own bus now were you on with the crew or were you just the band on the bus just the band like I know someone who went on a major tour and he was first with the crew and he just he was like I can't I can't do that yeah the crew they're they're like buzzing on a whole other level yeah plus they have to get in there much earlier like their their schedule is so different yeah they're already sick of all the artists yeah right exactly but now rightfully Bon chovi that's on a private jet oh oh yes and is it just the band goes on the private jet or just the whole crew like how is it how does it work with um there's like an there's like an the a crew right is on the jet which is the band and any like personal assistance usually are like on that and management is on that and then the crew is like on a separate I would think Bon Joy would be really cool too he's got the soul like Springsteen does he feels like he's someone who's super cool and very generous I mean but I have to say the tours are high-end like all five star hotels but it's almost so high-end that it's stressful probably beat me up for that because you are representing the brand so when you walk out of your hotel room there's fans there's cameras and you have to look good wow because everyone's like filming now and taking pictures and posting like crazy do you learn that or does someone tell you that you learn it because you're like oh wow I don't look good in that photo and I'm like with all the other gu guys at Starbucks and they're all all in their like rock and roll gear and I have my you know my hair in a bun right right in my house slippers that can't happen oh my God I love it although it could it be great it's it's not like these they're not spending all of this money on this high-end uh private jets and all you know the the they're not making you comfortable they're making you comfortable because that's a really smart way to keep your artists thriving and happy right yes and and and loyal and excited like as long as you're and also they can they can afford to do that yeah well plenty of people can afford it but they don't even do it you know they I'm sure there are people that can afford to send their artists on the best possible plane and stay at the best possible hotel but they don't and I feel like this is a great indication not it's like it's not like we're showing off our money we're spending this money because it's going to make our art the best it can be because everyone is rested everyone is eating well everyone has you know not the stress of flying and waiting at airports I also feel like with someone like Bon joy and probably Springsteen they also want to treat their people well because that's who they are it's not that I'm going to get a great better performance out of them if I let them you know sleep in a festar hotel I think they genuinely are like if I'm going to sleep that way they are that's exactly right uh Bruce Springstein in particular he um you know he kept us on retainer and and the idea was that's great I don't want anyone rushing anywhere to like pay their rent or freaking out he's like because when I have a lot of people that are stressed around me it doesn't really bod well for making a great performance or to learn whatever in the moment so that's why he he did that I'm sure you treat your performers the same way right I we're g going to have Daniel maneras on at some point so we'll find out oh that would be a good one that was not an accusation by the way that was a it was like if you're learning say no you learned you learned all of this and then you are also a producer and you have to deal with this cast of thousands who are in holidelic every year like holidelic is a perfect example I do what I can because it's a lot of people yeah on stage and they're all kind of high-end people too so um they do it because of the love but I do all I can to make them as comfortable as possible like absorb cost and and they appreciate it I want to ask a question about Fame because we talk about that a lot on this show did you want to be famous or do you have a desire now that you've been around so many famous acts what what are your feelings about that that's a good question that wasn't my idea I just wanted to make hide level art you know that was the thing yeah and then I guess when you do that that's what happens Fame comes with it and then there's a certain responsibility to that when it starts happening I I wasn't expecting that part but I've learned to embrace it so are you off the road for a while or what's what's the next six months to a year looking like for you well I mean to be straight up and very honest with you I don't know if you've heard but JN is John bonjovi is having some vocal issues okay I think I reached out to you maybe to you about hooking him up with Ty you did wait you married Ty I married Ty oh my gosh yeah he did physically marry Tyler Ty the listener he's a I'm an efficient so Ty I actually thought um would it would be great for John to work with Tye I think that's a really good call mostly because Ty has both he has like pop chops and he has like the classical I mean as far as bonjovi he is in the process of healing from an operation and uh you know and if you see the the documentary that came out earlier this year he goes in depth about it oh I basic yeah it's called thank you good night uh which I thought was really Charming at first and then I saw it I'm like oh this is scary this could be also good night yeah for a long time so we'll see but just the short story is that he had atrophy on one side of his vocal cords so one side was working and the other had just dropped and so they weren't parallel so they could phonate and vibrate so they basically put like a plastic sort of apparatus inside one side of his vocal cords and shenai Twain had the same operation and um he used her surgeon and he put they put a piece of plastic in so they can be parallel side by side so they can vibrate so basically he's relearning how to sing and how to sing his cast log wow oh my God we meet once a month and we do rehearsals as he keeps adding more and more of his songs to the catalog because he does work with speech there a therapist yeah therapist and then he wants to be with the band yeah just to like check in the goal is to tour 2025 oh my God I hope so I hope so I know it's open-ended so we're all keeping our fingers crossed and when that happens Nancy and I will come see it but we will only see it in New

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